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'Chief of War' co-creator discusses telling stories about Native Hawaiians

By Adrian Ma

Published August 10, 2025 at 7:41 AM CDT

"Chief of War" tells the story of the Hawaiian Islands' unification from a native Hawaiian perspective. NPR's Adrian Ma speaks with the show's co-creator, Thomas Pa'a Sibbett.

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Adrian Ma covers work, money and other "business-ish" for NPR's daily economics podcast The Indicator from Planet Money.

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